and that they were going to deliver this state for mitt romney and obama won it by 9 points. won it big. and they are putting together -- saying how do we stop the democratic party in michigan? by labor. i think there is a bigger picture here. it is not about -- they don't really give a damn about workers. we're talking about dick devos, the billionaires and millionaires of amway. we're talking about you know, different type of people like the koch brothers. they don't care about workers. this is about power. how do we work, weaken the democratic party in michigan so next time, maybe in '16, we can win it. >> jennifer: it is more than michigan right. you're a head of the teamsters. national global union. what's the next front in the battle across the country? you expect this to app elsewhere, i assume. >> they're fighting against everywhere. they're trying to do this in new hampshire. luckily, we were able to get a strong -- a new democratic governor in new hampshire but right to work has been active there. they're pushing it day and night. they're going to start all over aga